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2006-12-26まったりと勝手な要望かなあ

はてなアイデアに個々に出してもなあ 05:21

というのがあって、人力検索だけは手をつけていません。(多分)

文字数制限 05:21

確か、ここのBBSで書かれていた事ですが・・・・

私は文字数制限は必要だと考えています。ただし、それは質問のタイトル。今の人力検索は、タイトル=内容です。

ここは、ちゃんと、タイトルを入れてから、どうしてもそれで伝わらない時に限り、質問内容を入れられるようにすべきだと思います。

かといって、タイトルが「教えてください」じゃあ誰にも見られないでしょうし、「最大1000pt」なんて書かれても責任持てないので自分からアイデアにはしませんが。

開くのに10ptはやめてほしい 05:21

これはもう、ポイントに対して手数料はてなに払うべきだと私は感じます。

マイナスポイント評価を付けてほしい 05:21

これはひどい回答だな。と思ったら、はてなポイントを支払う事でマイナスポイントを付ける事が出来るとよい。10ptが最低回答を見るのに必要ならば、その10ptをユーザに送る事無く、はてな寄付するから逆に、評価を10pt分下げる。どうしても、こういう回答者は気に入らんというなら、はてなに100ptとか1000ptを寄付する事で、そのpt分のマイナス評価が上がる。

ほったらかしはやめて 05:21

基本的に質問者が開かないと、回答が見られないのは大きな問題。具体的案はないけれど、あまり良い実装じゃないと思う

はてなアイデア - 1度終了した質問を、回答、質問者のコメント、いわし等、そのままの状態から再度再開できる機能(はてなアンケート含む)。 05:21

そもそも、終了ステータスというのが何故必要なのかという問題から、着目点をロールバックすべきだと思うのだが。

ついでと、言っちゃなんだけど、

はてなアイデア - アンケート終了後にpointを補充(注入)すればその質問を再開できる機能

もよろしく。といいつつ、高値で売り出しているので、最低購入株の10株で。ただし、idea:8080に食われてしまって投資効果は全く期待できそうにありませんが。

そんなわけで、そもそも終了ステータスは何故必要なのか、というのと、回答に支払うべきポイントについて記載したいと思う。

書きかけなので、書き直す予定だけど

物を聞くのだから捨て値があってもいいのでは

まず、捨て値。これが200pt以上なら自動オープンが選べる。自動オープンしなくても、質問者は加算料金なしで開く事ができる。

捨て値があっても、回答に払う必要は無い

全く、とんちんかんな回答をする人には、前にも書いたがマイナス評価を与えるべき。なので、ポイントマイナス評価を与える

捨て値が設定されていても、それ以上のポイント評価がしたい

当たり前です。捨て値は最低、これだけのポイントを払うという約束で、本当に役に立てばポイントを払いたいという要求はある。

後から評価を加算したい

はてなアイデア - 「満足」ののっかり機能。この解答で満足xxポイントの所に、満足ポイントを追加ボタンを用意し、質問者以外の人も満足をポイントで送れる機能。ポイント表示に反映する。

というのが回答になると思います。このアイデアでは他の利用者さえも評価に加わる事が可能です。

終了状態なんていらない

捨て値が設定されているなら終了状態なんてのはいらないのでは?

YoshiyaYoshiya2006/12/28 01:21はじめまして「人ま会」へようこそ。
色々な要望を読ませてもらいましたが、参考になります。
特にマイナスポイント制度は私も同感で、ヤフオクみたいに評価制度を導入して
欲しいと思っています。(期待薄ですけどね)
今後共よろしくお願い致します。

kumonoyounikumonoyouni2006/12/28 16:49なるほど・・・いろいろ参考になります。
私も触発されて考えてみました。
>開くのに10ptはやめてほしい
一つの案として私がふと思ったことは、人力検索の場合には一言で終わっているような回答は回答と呼べない事が多いと思うので、最初の行くらいはどんな事が書いているのか質問者さんだけ見れて、続きを読みたい場合には10P支払って回答オープンするというのはどうでしょうか?
>基本的に質問者が開かないと、回答が見られないのは問題
質問終了後にポイント支払ってオープンできる機能があるとはいえ、これは思うことありますね。たまに質問者さんが一つもオープンしないで終了というパターンもあるので、回答者の権利としても回答キャンセルという機能があっても良い気がします。例えば6日経った時点で一つもオープンされてない場合には、回答者は自分の回答をキャンセルできるか、7日経過した時点で一つもオープンされてなかった場合には質問者の自己責任として無条件で全てオープンし均等配分してしまうとか、それ以外の条件でもオープンされる前の回答はポイント支払って回答キャンセルできるとか。
>マイナスポイント評価を付けてほしい
逆いるか賞でもよいですね。私前から思っているのですが、システム的に大変なのかもしれませんが、どういう分野でいい評価もらっているのかプロフィール欄で分けて表示されたらどうかと思っているのですがどうでしょう?
ある人はこの分野ではいい回答多いけど、この分野はダメそうだとか、事前に分かれば質問者さんも自分の質問分野にあわせて優先的にオープンしやすいと思うのです。

hmorihmori2006/12/28 19:50はてなにとって10ptというのは、どんな回答でも10ptぐらいの価値はあるだろうから払ってやってくれという所だと思うのですが、あまりその意図というのが伝わって来ない感が私にはします。
私は質問者が完全に興味を無くした時以外は終了しないというモデルの方が良いのではないかと思っています。
なので、基本的に回答をクローズドにしない限り無料でオープン出来てあたりまえだと考えています。その上である程度の期間内に、ある程度の金額を振り分けるという義務はあるが、あとはほっといて良いと言う方がわかりやすいのではないかと・・・
回答者もある程度の期間を超えたら見返りがある可能性が少なくなることもあらかじめわかるし。質問者もゆっくりかまえられる。

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